February 10, 2012

Virgin Money Social Lending – a New Revolution in the Debt Markets

Virgin Money Social Lending

Virgin Money is creating a social lending system where family members and friends can create loan documents and lend or borrow to / from each other with Virgin standing in the middle. That way, things can't go south because if the borrower doesn't repay, it gets reported to the credit bureau and action is taking just like with a credit card or home loan!

First, I would never loan money to friends or family (with only a handful of exceptions*, one of which is my parents) under any circumstances. To me, money isn’t important – I just want to build and create like a little kid with a Lego set or a real-life version of Sim City. Other people, it seems, have this really big emotional investment in it. If I lend money, it takes away the chips I can use to build my playground. I’m going to want it back, even if I don’t need it, because it becomes about integrity. If someone were to not repay a loan, I wouldn’t be able to be around them because I would always think, “They don’t value our relationship enough to keep a promise.” Thus, it’s better to avoid the mess altogether.

To be perfectly honest, a big part of it has to do with the fact that I can earn better returns elsewhere and I would feel like an idiot loaning money at 10% if I know I can get 20% on some project Aaron and I are doing over on the side.  I mean, I try above all else to be rational.  Allocating capital to low returning investment such as debt isn’t prudent given my age and opportunity cost.

Virgin Money Social Lending Revolutionizes the Debt Markets

Virgin Money, however, has created a unique product that I find intriguing. You pay them a small fee of a few hundred dollars and they will structure a loan between you and a family member or friend. They service the loan, so that the borrower sends all of the payments into Virgin Money, who then tracks the loan balance, interest costs, sends statements, and forwards the money to you in the form of direct deposit. If the borrower doesn’t repay the loan, or is late, that gets reported to the credit bureaus just like any other debt and it could destroy their credit score and/or force them into bankruptcy.

In effect, Virgin Money is creating a social lending institution that stands between borrower and seller so that neither has to get emotional. If payment is made, Virgin is going to take care of it. They get a fee for this. The borrower has his or her credit destroyed. It’s a marvelous innovation that could make lending more palpable for those who otherwise wouldn’t open their pocketbooks for friends or family.

An Interesting Double Standard

There is an interesting double standard to which  I must confess because if one of my older relatives needed money and couldn’t live off the interest rate they were earning at the bank on their certificates of deposit, I would consider issuing privately placed bonds to them at, say, 7% to 8.5%, that allowed them to get far more than they could anywhere else. Technically, that would mean I would be borrowing from a family member (or rather, my businesses would).

My reasoning is this: 1. I don’t need the money, 2. I don’t believe there is any reasonable chance of default, 3. I would simply add the money to our other investments to grow further or keep it on hand as working capital, and 4. I’d feel like I would be doing them a favor.

Likewise, I would think about creating a special type of preferred membership equity share class for my parents or grandparents that wanted dividend income.  It lets them enjoy retirement and I know I can earn an attractive return on capital.

* You may be wondering what the second exception is.  I might do for some of my executives what Warren Buffett did with Ken Chace when he took over Berkshire Hathaway and loaned him $18,000 to buy 1,000 shares of Berkshire Hathaway stock (which now have a market value of nearly $125 million, by the way). If they came to work for me, and wanted to own part of the company once it was publicly traded, I would consider creating a special trust that loaned them money at a predetermined low interest rate to buy shares of my company. If they default, the shares would revert to me and I would have stilled earned some interest income. If they pay the debt off in full, they are a partial owner of the firm. It’s a win-win situation.

Come to think of it, I really like the idea of creating an executive share ownership fund that lends money for stock purchases to employees. Lord knows I’m going to require them to hold a multiple of their base salary in outright share ownership to align interests with the public stockholders so it would make compliance less burdensome.

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  • Austin H

    Joshua-

    I’d be careful with this. I too was really excited when I first heard about prosper (a similar micro-lending program, I haven’t looked and probably won’t look too much at the Virgin venue). I wish the A credit rating, 0 history of default school teacher would have paid her loan. I also wish the 40 year old couple consolidating credit card debt would have paid her loan back too. I’m glad I took it relatively slow and only put 2,000 into it (not chump change for a college sophomore, but not enough to thwart any goals). The results were disastrous across the board. High grade, low grade- all grades were pathetic. I knew people out their don’t pay their bills, but I just didn’t realize how many. I really would like to find these people and ask for my $50 to $100 back.

    My 2009 year end statement:
    Jan 1 Balance: $1193
    Principal Paid: $310
    PRINCIPAL CHARGE OFF: $609!
    Ending Balance: $275

    When I start my website here shortly, I am going to dedicate an article to this mistake and some other mistakes (IE investing in a company with a market cap of 50M or buying a 100 shares of a ‘stable’ security because of a quick buck covered call). Focusing on my mistakes has helped me avoid those in the future with larger amounts of money.

    Again, don’t get too wrapped up around the 20+% rate of return paid in monthly intervals as I did. It would have been so nice getting those interest checks in every month. I’ve been much happier with HYG’s monthly dividend. Not that you wouldn’t do your homework with these, I just found out the hard way.

    Good luck,
    Austin

  • Austin H

    Also, I can’t think of a reason that executives of large firms shouldn’t be paid mostly in stock. If they suck, they’ll lose a lot more than the average shareholder. If they do well, they are rewarded substantially. I’d also imagine they would be less inclined to ‘deworseify’ and more inclined to pay reliable dividends. That’s one of the biggest complaints I have with the military: General Officers have no incentive to turn down a mission. If they say no, or they need too much, then Congress will ask them to resign and promote someone that says yes. I’m not that into politics, but it gets difficult wearing the uniform everyday.

  • http://www.joshuakennon.com Joshua Kennon

    Austin,

    That’s rough! Prosper won’t be able to survive long if it can’t get the credit ratings to accurately reflect the risk; the free market will take care of it (unfortunately, you paid the tuition bill).

    One of the reasons I bought a ton of U.S. Bancorp during the crash when it was at $8 or so per share was because the CEO and Chairman both earned more in cash dividends on the stock they had built up over their lifetimes with the bank than they did in salaries and bonuses. That let me know that they would do everything possible to turn the dividend back on as soon as the regulators would allow it, meaning the stock price was far undervalued (because I didn’t think they had any bankruptcy risk).

    Executive compensation would be much easier to manage if it were tied to the total capital returned to stockholders weighted by the growth in the earnings per share. The exact formula wouldn’t need to be complicated.